Well this many people can't be wrong so i drove 150 mile round trip to pick up my ASf trio tonight. I will give a day or so to settle in and then I will post pics. I held all three of them at the breeders with no bites or even attemps. They don't like to be held but I don't think they will be charging me to bite in the cage. Wish me luck. I have some balls that are waiting.