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  • 08-19-2009, 01:10 PM
    LadyOhh
    HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    I am freaking out. One of my babies is hatching with a knot in its umbilicus. I need advice on what to do. It has a knot at the base of the yolk sac, and I am in need of some advice. I can't get it untied!!!!!!
  • 08-19-2009, 01:13 PM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Sorry to hear that. Good luck with the hatchling. Wish I had some words of advice, but I have never had that happen.
  • 08-19-2009, 01:17 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
  • 08-19-2009, 01:21 PM
    NorthernRegius
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Heather you can do this...

    inspect to see if the knot is part of the cord or a fatty deposit.
  • 08-19-2009, 01:23 PM
    NorthernRegius
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Keep everything moist & see if you've a herp vet near you. If not, let me know about the fat, I can walk you trough a few things if you don't have a herp vet to help you out. But that's going to be a big undertaking, hon. Keep your cool & keep everything moist.
  • 08-19-2009, 01:25 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Most of the knot is yolk... but it is around the umblicius
  • 08-19-2009, 01:26 PM
    jglass38
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Heather,

    If you can't untangle it, I would tie it off above the cut near the belly with a piece of unwaxed dental floss. Then cut it about half an inch from the tie off. Bruce Whitehead had a similar thing happen. See this thread:

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ight=umbilicus

    Of course the other option is to find a herp vet if you don't feel comfortable with it.
  • 08-19-2009, 01:29 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38 View Post
    Heather,

    I would tie it off above the cut near the belly with a piece of unwaxed dental floss. Then cut it about half an inch from the tie off. Bruce Whitehead had a similar thing happen. See this thread:

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ight=umbilicus


    But his died! :(
  • 08-19-2009, 01:29 PM
    JasonG
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    I had a baby hatch out like this a month ago... I had to cut the cord... Tie it off with thread and then take the yellow yolk of a chicken egg that is room temp and mix it up good. Then take one of those baby syringe that have no needle point and "pump" the babies stomach with the yolk. I had to do this a few times until she took pinky rats on her own.

    He/she will be ok...
  • 08-19-2009, 01:30 PM
    jglass38
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    But his died! :(

    I don't believe his cutting of the umbilicus was the cause of the death. Looks like other contributing circumstances.
  • 08-19-2009, 01:32 PM
    JasonG
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    When I say pump... I mean down it's throat. Not through its cord... Just to clarify..
  • 08-19-2009, 01:32 PM
    Soterios
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Oh no! I hope it turns out alright. :(
  • 08-19-2009, 01:36 PM
    muddoc
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38 View Post
    Heather,

    If you can't untangle it, I would tie it off above the cut near the belly with a piece of unwaxed dental floss. Then cut it about half an inch from the tie off. Bruce Whitehead had a similar thing happen. See this thread:

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ight=umbilicus

    Of course the other option is to find a herp vet if you don't feel comfortable with it.

    This is what I would do. I have had to do it twice this year, and had great success with this. However, it is paramount to get a meal in them within 10 days, and continue to assist feed until they eat on their own. I wish you the best of luck Heather. I would hate to see you lose that beautiful baby.
  • 08-19-2009, 01:45 PM
    nixer
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    thats one hot snake i hope it works out good
  • 08-19-2009, 02:04 PM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    I would give it a little time to see if it absorbs any of the yolk itself. It is possible that it may still be able to absorb some of that yolk even though it is knotted. If nothing looked different by the end of the day I would probably tie it off and snip it.
  • 08-19-2009, 02:05 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    I needed some extra coaching, but here is the end result.

    Of course this has to happen while I am going off to vacation... Of course. But I will have updates every day from the Joel, and I will be back on Sunday.

    http://i862.photobucket.com/albums/a...h/P1100079.jpg
  • 08-19-2009, 02:07 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pfan151 View Post
    I would give it a little time to see if it absorbs any of the yolk itself. It is possible that it may still be able to absorb some of that yolk even though it is knotted. If nothing looked different by the end of the day I would probably tie it off and snip it.

    I would have, but I am leaving in a few hours to go on vacation. This was do or die...

    Of course...

    I swear, I'm going to have a heart attack after this.

    Grew a whole mess of grey hairs...

    Note to everyone: Snakes do this on PURPOSE...
  • 08-19-2009, 02:09 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Heather I think you did a great job on the little one. Please keep us uptodate on how it goes.
  • 08-19-2009, 02:10 PM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Good luck with him. He looks to have pretty good size to him so hopefully he has enough yolk absorbed to make it until the fist meal.
  • 08-19-2009, 02:10 PM
    cbentley
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    That is a beautiful snake. I hope every thing works out for you!
  • 08-19-2009, 02:11 PM
    Royal Morphz
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    I needed some extra coaching, but here is the end result.

    Of course this has to happen while I am going off to vacation... Of course. But I will have updates every day from the Joel, and I will be back on Sunday.

    http://i862.photobucket.com/albums/a...h/P1100079.jpg

    Heather you did awesome job with the Tie off looks like what I had to do with some of my fattie slugs (bloods) back in the day good job and that baby doesn't look like it to bad on absorbing most of the yolk. please keep us updated
  • 08-19-2009, 02:15 PM
    waltah!
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Good job with that guy Heather. Crossing my fingers for ya, but he looks good.
  • 08-19-2009, 02:17 PM
    NorthernRegius
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    We'll be sending warm thoughts to the wee-one while you are away, please keep us posted, but looks like he should pull through for you!
  • 08-19-2009, 02:43 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    He is weighing in at 55 grams... and its a BOY...
  • 08-19-2009, 02:48 PM
    twistedtails
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Nice work Heather. Hope it pans out for you!
  • 08-19-2009, 03:06 PM
    jglass38
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Awesome job Heather!! He looks great!
  • 08-19-2009, 03:14 PM
    Lucas339
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    55 grams already. it will be fine!! i had a hatchling this season at 34 grams. you did a good job!
  • 08-19-2009, 08:20 PM
    Vypyrz
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Good job with that... Now go enjoy your vacation... :gj:
  • 08-19-2009, 10:24 PM
    muddoc
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    He is weighing in at 55 grams... and its a BOY...

    Gald to hear it has penes. I am submitting your name to UC for an honorary doctorate. It looks like a surgeon took care of that snake. He'll be fine, I just know it. At minimum we know he is in good hands.
  • 08-19-2009, 10:40 PM
    Muze
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Great job with the 'surgery'...lol. Looks like a pro did it. He looks like a healthy lil guy. He's also GORGEOUS. Good luck!
  • 08-19-2009, 10:59 PM
    briz
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Very impressive job Heather, fingers crossed for you.
  • 08-20-2009, 12:22 AM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Wow you did an amazing job!
    That is a beauty of a snake and I know its gonna make it for you:)

    I told you you should be a vet;)
  • 08-20-2009, 12:46 AM
    Eventide
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Oh, no, not the Silver Bullet!!!! It just had to be that one, didn't it?!?!

    I'm so sorry! I sure hope the little guy makes it!!
  • 08-20-2009, 01:17 AM
    spk329
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Great job Heather.....hope he does well. He looks pretty good post surgery :)
  • 08-20-2009, 08:52 AM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    He'll be fine! We hatched out a little 34 gram albino het girl who was quite weak just out of the egg. She didn't look like she'd got much of the yolk at all! But we set her up just like the rest--within 24 hours she was stronger. She shed out normally on schedule, and she just took her first meal of a live mouse fuzzy without a fuss, all on her own, yesterday. :) We didn't need to assist-feed or anything.
  • 08-20-2009, 02:11 PM
    hmj75
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    he should be good....he's got decent size just keep him moist and everything claen to avoid any type of infection...good luck:gj:
  • 08-21-2009, 11:30 AM
    extensive
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    glad it worked out for you heather... keep us updated.
  • 08-21-2009, 03:43 PM
    coolluigi007
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Hope everything is well with the little one....
  • 08-21-2009, 03:45 PM
    AaronP
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Awesome job heather, looking forward to hearing the future status of the little guy.
  • 08-21-2009, 03:56 PM
    pythontricker
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    great work heather, what a beautiful snake too! keep us updated
  • 08-21-2009, 07:30 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    They do do it on purpose :p He is so beautiful too!
  • 08-24-2009, 07:34 AM
    Python Dreams
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Nice Silver Bullet! Even Nicer job fixing up the little bugger! I feel much more relaxed about ever having to deal with this situation after seeing your:gj: pics! Good job!
  • 08-24-2009, 11:26 AM
    Morphie
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Good work! Placing bets, I'd say that guy's going to be just fine.

    Congrats on hatching such a gorgeous animal!
  • 08-24-2009, 11:58 AM
    LadyOhh
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    UPDATE:

    He's doing just fine.

    He's smaller than his siblings, but doing just fine. His bellybutton healed up nicely, and I am waiting for his first shed.

    http://i862.photobucket.com/albums/a...dyOhhh/009.jpg

    http://i862.photobucket.com/albums/a...dyOhhh/014.jpg

    http://i862.photobucket.com/albums/a...dyOhhh/013.jpg
  • 08-24-2009, 12:06 PM
    elevatethis
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Awesome job with this one.
  • 08-24-2009, 12:33 PM
    pigslayer
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    im glad it all worked out for ya
  • 08-24-2009, 01:01 PM
    spk329
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    SOOOOOOoooooooo happy to hear that ....Great work Heather and He's gorgeous
  • 08-24-2009, 01:09 PM
    Muze
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    He looks great! Awesome job. I'm very happy for you.
  • 08-24-2009, 01:11 PM
    dr del
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Hi,

    What happens when the umbilicus heals?

    Does it dry up and fall off with the dental floss attatched or is some of it drawn inside?

    If it is drawn inside what do you do about the dental floss?

    I feel like I should know the answers to this but I really don't. :oops:


    dr del
  • 08-24-2009, 01:25 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: HELP!!! Knotted its own umbilicus!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    What happens when the umbilicus heals?

    Does it dry up and fall off with the dental floss attatched or is some of it drawn inside?

    If it is drawn inside what do you do about the dental floss?

    I feel like I should know the answers to this but I really don't. :oops:


    dr del

    Like it happens in nature, it dries up and falls off. I was told that there was a very small portion of flesh with dental floss tied around it left at the base of the tub before it got cleaned.

    So it doesn't get absorbed, persay. That would only be if the floss was in the yolk itself.. I can't imagine any reason for that to be.

    :)
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