I got scammed or what? Pictures!

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Originally Posted by Nate

What color are her eyes?

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The eyes are green but very dark green though. I was wondering, could it be a possible Enchi :D Doubt it but I can hope.
-Tinson

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Originally Posted by BPZ

The eyes are green but very dark green though. I was wondering, could it be a possible Enchi :D Doubt it but I can hope.
-Tinson

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In a word.... No.

Again, browned out Pastel. I've seen some really browned out Pastels that threw great lookin babies so don't dismiss her on her looks alone.

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

In a word.... No.

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Even until now I went to research alot on sites I still don't understand how do you tell if it's a pastel or Enchi?
Like can anyone point out what physical features it has please?

Definitely not an enchi... but yes, a pastel.

Some of them get that dark dorsal tipping, but give the poor girl a chance to shed.

I will be the dissenter. I do not think she is browned out... I think she is a Graziani that has heavy black dorsal tipping. Once she sheds my bet is on dark shots from above, with nice bright yellow on her sides. :)

You will have black and yellow, but I doubt you will have brown on her...

Bruce

How old is the female Pastel? I ask because age has alot to do with it. I have some 5 year old Pastel females that have browned some in their older age, but looked great at 2 years old. Everything, I mean everything, gets some brown/darker pigments to it as it ages. I have especially noticed the "darkening" kick in somewhere around the 4 year old point.

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Originally Posted by muddoc

How old is the female Pastel? I ask because age has alot to do with it. I have some 5 year old Pastel females that have browned some in their older age, but looked great at 2 years old. Everything, I mean everything, gets some brown/darker pigments to it as it ages. I have especially noticed the "darkening" kick in somewhere around the 4 year old point.

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Hmmm I was told she was a 07 =/

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Originally Posted by BPZ

Even until now I went to research alot on sites I still don't understand how do you tell if it's a pastel or Enchi?
Like can anyone point out what physical features it has please?

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http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html

Enchis look nothing like pastels except for having lighter/yellow coloring. They have a definite reduced pattern which is caused by the enchi gene, which is always what I look for the most since it is easier for me to spot than coloration, which is affected by differences between snakes, aging, and not to mention the differences that lighting conditions make in the color of a picture.

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Originally Posted by BPZ

Even until now I went to research alot on sites I still don't understand how do you tell if it's a pastel or Enchi?
Like can anyone point out what physical features it has please?

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This picture may help you,

Animals are both owned by Adam Wysocki (www.8ballpythons.com). Picture taken by me (www.cinderbird.com). Normally I wouldnt post this since its going to be in my book, but I had such a tough time telling enchis from normals until i saw them in person. I think this image may be a real help.

Normal and Enchi
http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/q...ormalEnchi.jpg

Could you post a photo of the belly. That could end the debate right there.