Purchased as a Mojave

Sal I asked you 12 times for a tracking on this package you sent. You avoided the quest at all costs. I have in posseion richs snakes to be traded off in person. you where supposed to release a tracking to him when they where in my possesion. he did not want to send to you direct because u screwed him before. He sucked it up wants to make good by trading you more and the spector from the previous deal. You have every excuse in the world why u have not paid these people you have no money but you buy a mojave. yyou have no money but your lookin to buy local het russo for 600. But you have no money. Its the same bs he feeds everyone he wants to make good on all these people he screwed. he tries to get you to feel bad for him its the same stuff over and over. So I ask again please put here a valid tracking saying you sent the snakes and they where held at your request. If your a great guy and wanna make good post the tracking. If you dont then it never was shipped it never existed and your lying dirtbag. I dont wanna hear your phone was stolen dog ate tracking or how your aunt died or family was involved in shady brook shooting or how the wind blew ne today and that caused a chain of events unknown to man. Is the dow being down 100 pts gonna lead to another excuse why you can post a tracking or the sun was not bright enough today.......you get my point stop the BS

He has money just not their money. Don't let him fool you if he had no money he would have not inquired about a 600 dollar snake the other day. His tactics are to get people to feel bad for him. He has good size collection of snakes and fishing equip he could sell to make money to pay these people.

I love watching the consecutive posts like 10 min apart. Scrambling much?

Sorry to the bp.net community for my initial comments.

Paul, please private message me the photos if you wouldn't mind. I'm local enough to need to know.

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Originally Posted by OnlyOneCanoli

I have 3 kids and only my wife is working part time it's not easy to pay back as fast as everyone would like I also really don't appreciate people calling and threatning me and my family. That is not how to get things resolved.

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I have no stake in this what so ever but I have to ask, why is it that every excuse you have involves some type of family? Can't you come up with a better excuse that won't drag your family through the mud with you? You are clearly a scammer and I feel bad for your family since you keep using them as an excuse. You strike me as someone who is begging for sympathy because you got caught red handed and just keep lying about it, making it worse.

I hope everyone you have screwed over gets some type of justice from this, be it seeing you sent to jail for fraud or actually getting their money or snakes back.

Sorry bp.net community hope you don't mind nor do I mean to be rude but who's fault really is it. The guy who ships without $$$$???

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Originally Posted by KingPythons

Sorry bp.net community hope you don't mind nor do I mean to be rude but who's fault really is it. The guy who ships without $$$$???

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If I read the BOI correctly it was initially supposed to be a trade, but OnlyOneCanoli decided not to hold up his end of the deal and ship. He eventually asked the breeder to send him an invoice for the amount of the snake so he could pay it off which is where money comes into play.

It was a trade. Snake for snake

So when it comes to trade the "offerer" gets his animal first not the person who agreed to the trade? Sounds like a fail to me?

They were both supposed to ship the same day. There was also another incident where he paid for a snake, then after receiving it revoked the payment. If you really want to defend this guy and/or place blame or "fail" on the seller side, at least have the courtesy to read the linked BOI and get the information.

Canoli, I'm surprised you haven't hit oil yet with how deep you keep digging yourself...

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Originally Posted by RoseyReps

They were both supposed to ship the same day. There was also another incident where he paid for a snake, then after receiving it revoked the payment. If you really want to defend this guy and/or place blame or "fail" on the seller side, at least have the courtesy to read the linked BOI and get the information.

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I did read it as I know how to read very well lol. The agreement is just unclear. All I'm saying is that's a bad deal! I guess what ur not understanding is that I would receive snake first approve and then ship. I see Rosey rep will be doing things in reverse. (attitude I dot need)

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Originally Posted by KingPythons

Sorry bp.net community hope you don't mind nor do I mean to be rude but who's fault really is it. The guy who ships without $$$$???

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So, you're saying the other guy deserved to get screwed....really? Remind me to never, ever do business with you.

I did not imply that you didn't know how to read. Just that based on your questions, you hadn't read the thread.

Say what you like about my alleged "attitude you don't need", you're welcome to your opinion.

I personally cannot stand the idea that the victim is to blame. Its actions and thoughts along those lines that leads to things like "well look at how she was dressed. She's part to blame" or burglars sueing victims that injured them.

Turning a scam around on the person who got scammed by saying "well you shouldn't trust people" is just giving thieves an excuse.

Yes, I will do trades one day probably. I would expect to ship at the same time unless the seller is a big name in which I would offer to ship first (being an unknown currently).

I refuse to start distrusting the many, because of the actions of a few bad apples. I will not be one who faults the trusting trader, lessening the severity of the criminal.

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Originally Posted by KingPythons

Sorry bp.net community hope you don't mind nor do I mean to be rude but who's fault really is it. The guy who ships without $$$$???

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Really??
Our hobby is all about TRUST.......................regardless of what you want to think EVERYTHING here rides on TRUST!
From shipping snakes, to deals, to....................... well lets just say HETs too. You have recessives so you will probably have some form of hets right? Why should anyone trust you to pay more for your "het" than a $20 normal?
See where this is leading?
If you still stand buy blaming the seller then that's fine but I would trust you now either.;)

man I didnt even no what was going on till I researched a little bit. I honestly think this dude lies so much he actually believes him self. then the audacity to pop up and ask questions after you burn people. no wonder this world is going down the drain, dang sure aint like when I was a kid!!! Good luck to all those involved, I hope you get whats owed to you and let karma be a good one.

Feeling bad just because i am from CT too,

Paul,please private message me the photo too,i do some local trades and sales so just in case
thanks

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

Really??
Our hobby is all about TRUST.......................regardless of what you want to think EVERYTHING here rides on TRUST!
From shipping snakes, to deals, to....................... well lets just say HETs too. You have recessives so you will probably have some form of hets right? Why should anyone trust you to pay more for your "het" than a $20 normal?
See where this is leading?
If you still stand buy blaming the seller then that's fine but I would trust you now either.;)

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I respect that!! Really I just think trust is to much to throw around.

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Originally Posted by dav4

So, you're saying the other guy deserved to get screwed....really? Remind me to never, ever do business with you.

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No! I'm saying to do business smart. I still think the person that call the shots is the person who recieved the deal and decides on the trade. These are animals that you raise feed(at least the parents) and I find it crazy to just be so trust worthy like that. They both are wrong but if you just think that it's one persons fault then you have to be sniffing bad fumes daily! Just saying

I would also like the picture pm'd to me. Thanks. This guy needs to do the right thing.

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Originally Posted by KingPythons

They both are wrong but if you just think that it's one persons fault then you have to be sniffing bad fumes daily! Just saying

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When the deal is to both ship the same day and then one guy scums out, whos to blame? the scum:cool:

Here's a simple fix.

NEVER ship the same day to someone you DON'T know.

Period.

In a trade, the person offering to trade ships first, then the one who had the desired animals, the reason for the trade, ships their's. This is reptile shipping etiquette. Don't offer a trade to people you don't trust, don't ship same day to people you don't know, always use the BOI.

Simple.

Hey canoliboy, my roses need more fertilizer, could you make another post please? Your crap is very tasty to my plants.

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

When the deal is to both ship the same day and then one guy scums out, whos to blame? the scum:cool:

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Again I value what u say! I'll sum it up, these are your animals, think of it as being a parent. You are the parent! Own up to it and be a GOOD parent. If I was trading all like that I would wonna see the animal first and get him/her a check up.

He probably isn't married and doesn't have kid's! He sounds like an 18 yo compulsive liar. I hope for your sake you don't believe in karma!

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Originally Posted by snake8myelbo

He probably isn't married and doesn't have kid's! He sounds like an 18 yo compulsive liar. I hope for your sake you don't believe in karma!

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One's belief, or lack thereof, in Karma is in no way necessary. It exists outside any one person's ability to influence with mere admission of existence.

Whether it will or will not notice little canoliboy is not for I or you to answer or even worry over.

I think there isn't a lot of point talking to him through the forums or encouraging him to do the right thing. Personally, I think everyone he's ever scammed or ripped off in any way should place a phone call - TODAY - to police station closest to his receiving shipping address. Then follow up on it until they act.

This guy is a thief who has stolen thousands of dollars worth of merchandise. Let him explain his family problems to a judge or do prison time. I have no sympathy for him whatsoever.

As I said before. I will be able to pay everyone back in full as soon as my tax return is recieved. If there is anyone who would buy a snake from me and pay someone I owe directly. I would ship you the snake first and upon being revived you send the funds to someone I owe I would be willing to do that. Nobody will buy any snakes from me so I could us the money to pay back my debts. This is a option I'm willing to do. If anyone has any other ideas of how I could pay them back faster than my tax return I'm willing to try. Again I will make this right I just can't do it as fast as everyone would like.

Who cares when your gonna pay someone back?!?!!!

Why did you do it in the 1st place?? Your not gonna pay anyone back liar. Stop trying to cover for yourself. Might as well change your name because no one is gonna put up with you, especially being on the BOI....


Ball Pythons
0.3 Normals (Coilette, Athena and Mary Jane)
1.0 Pastel (De Sol)
1.0 Spider (Zeus)
1.0 Mojave (Prometheus)

Boa Constrictors
0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (Stella)
0.1 BCI (Kiyoko)
0.1 Dumerils Boa (Gloria)

Hahaha when u get your taxes my ass. Where is the 600 u got to get that het Russo u where gonna buy. U got cash stop bulling everyone pay them back. U just bought that Mojave last week where did that come from. How u paying for rats to feed that collection. Sal put on your big boy pants and be a friggin man. Pay your debts u have the cash don't sit here and blow smoke up our asses. O FYI he is being looked into already takes time to compile a slam dunk case. His time will soon be up.

Sal if u give me the names of people u owe snakes to I can get a letter from them or and agreement to take them into my possion and send them back to them if they want me to do this. I can not hold stolen stuff without there permission. If one of those animals is micro chipped I can get screwed without a documentation saying its ok. I'm gonna talk to rich if he wants this to happen. U owe Brian cash so send him his money order u promised 6 weeks ago. If there are others pm details i will drive to a spot and meet u with with my uncle who is a cop. I will only meet u once so u better be able to make the day and time u pick. If u blow me off like u have to others well I tried to help. Let me know

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Originally Posted by OnlyOneCanoli

If anyone has any other ideas of how I could pay them back faster than my tax return I'm willing to try. Again I will make this right I just can't do it as fast as everyone would like.

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Oh, I don't know...let's see...1) get a job...somewhere...anywhere...minimum wage, whatever...just do it 2) cancel your tv/cable/cell phone services...these are extravagances for someone with debt they can't pay back 3) Sell ALL your snakes to the pet store you bought the Mojave from...sure you won't make your money back...might only get pennies on the dollar, but that's too bad. You've got plenty of options, I'm sure you'll do the right things to make this right:rolleyes:.

I understand the idea behind not shipping on the same day. I've been breeding ball pythons for 10 years and have NEVER had an issue in a trade like this. It is partially my fault for being too trusting, I get that, but if still doesn't excuse the actions of Sal doing what he did to fraudulently get snakes for nothing. You can count on my not shipping same day anymore unless I initiate things.

Sal you can send me those snakes to make things right....I won't hold my breath though.

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Originally Posted by OnlyOneCanoli

As I said before. I will be able to pay everyone back in full as soon as my tax return is recieved. If there is anyone who would buy a snake from me and pay someone I owe directly. I would ship you the snake first and upon being revived you send the funds to someone I owe I would be willing to do that. Nobody will buy any snakes from me so I could us the money to pay back my debts. This is a option I'm willing to do. If anyone has any other ideas of how I could pay them back faster than my tax return I'm willing to try. Again I will make this right I just can't do it as fast as everyone would like.

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Simple fix. Give people their snakes back.

Wow I just spent a good chunk of time reading up on this. This guy is ridiculous! Sal, have you ever heard of integrity?

PS - Sal, you mentioned you would send a snake to someone and upon arrival they can pay you? How bout you just send the snakes you stole back to the original owner? Same type of deal, no BS cause all you have to do is ship and provide number... You make no sense. Tell ya what, send me a snake and if it ever gets here I'll send some money to Luke from the BOI...

Sorry to chime in a little late but it frustrates me that this guy has the balls to get back on the forums asking for help. I hope you all get justice one way or the other.

Calder

From what I'm told, he doesn't have the Pastel Calico that I sent him anymore. I gave him ample time and told him I'd even send him a shipping label to send it back. He insisted on sending me money even when I told him to just send the snake back and that I don't want his money anymore. Sent a PayPal invoice and he cancelled it....told me his mom was sending a money order and nothing. It was always constant excuses as to why something didn't happen, trying to get more time (for what, I don't know if he never planned to send anything) and nothing ever happened and I doubt it will until the police are involved.

By the way Sal, I hope you know that fraud is a felony charge too.
I was also involved in the Rob Penny (Spiderballs.net) scandal as well (though not as much as some of the others) and he made it to jail pretty quickly. ;)

Luke please contact me thru email and if I have something you would take as payment I will send it as soon as we make a deal and post tracking here so whomever would like to see it can. If I have to send multiple snakes that's what I will do. As far as rich is concerned I sent him a specter male and 300 from the very beginning the only part of that deal he did not get was a fishing setup. I offered to send him a specter female but he wanted to do a deal for multiple snakes which is what happened the other day but he sent them to Paul and I held my shipment because I was thinking he was just trying to take my snakes and say who cares nobody would if he took my snakes. I still have the specter female if he wants that to make that deal done and paid for. If I could make a deal with Luke and he is happy with a snake or snakes to suffice my debt I will ship on Monday. And also my aunt did pass away and you could check the obituaries if you would like.

No more excuses, no more deals, no more I sent this and that and offered this but he didn't want that sort of crap; give the people the money they need. If you don't have it? Give them a realistic time frame based on your income and expenses and pay them in small increments. If you want to make this right all you have to do is make a solid plan.

If I can't make a deal that they are happy with I will have my income taxes next month and all will be paid in full. I don't have an exact date but as soon as we file our taxes I will have a better idea of an exact date. I could send 50 a week untill then if that is acceptable. I only posted this here so all could see my agreement and so there is no question of what I said and how much or when. I could sends 50 every Friday untill my taxes come in then which I will pay the remainder of my debt. As far as Luke I hope this is ok for you if you can't find a snake or snakes that you would take as payment. For rich I will not do any more multi snake deals all I want to do is send you what I owe for the fishing gear that was part of our trade you did not recieve. As I said he had recieved the 300 and the specter male from the very start and only thing that did not arrive was the fishing gear and that was my fault for not insuring it and I will make good on that. The snake I purchased and was paid with Paypal I'm still trying to iron out with my cc company but if that doesn't work out I will send the snake back which I still have. I spoke to brian via text and he will be paid for his snake which was a local deal with my tax return and that was fine with him. That's all the people I owe and that's what I can do to make things right.

Dude!!!!
How many people have you screwed?!?!?:mad:

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Originally Posted by OnlyOneCanoli

If I can't make a deal that they are happy with I will have my income taxes next month and all will be paid in full. I don't have an exact date but as soon as we file our taxes I will have a better idea of an exact date. I could send 50 a week untill then if that is acceptable. I only posted this here so all could see my agreement and so there is no question of what I said and how much or when. I could sends 50 every Friday untill my taxes come in then which I will pay the remainder of my debt. As far as Luke I hope this is ok for you if you can't find a snake or snakes that you would take as payment. For rich I will not do any more multi snake deals all I want to do is send you what I owe for the fishing gear that was part of our trade you did not recieve. As I said he had recieved the 300 and the specter male from the very start and only thing that did not arrive was the fishing gear and that was my fault for not insuring it and I will make good on that. The snake I purchased and was paid with Paypal I'm still trying to iron out with my cc company but if that doesn't work out I will send the snake back which I still have. I spoke to brian via text and he will be paid for his snake which was a local deal with my tax return and that was fine with him. That's all the people I owe and that's what I can do to make things right.

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Every time your mouth opens all this chit falls straight out! Your not going to pay off anything and you know it!! When income tax comes your just going to find another poor sap to screw over.

Maybe he will pay them back. He's making all the right noises.

canoliboy, you might want to consider how down right stupid you sound when you keep repeating that if someone ripped you off no one would care and that's why you aren't sending snakes.

Dimwit, even you, were you ripped off, would have people trying to help you out. So stop the sniveling and DO something. That thing your ribs are attached to is your backbone. Straighten it out and do what's right.

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Canoli, have you seen such a sight before?

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Originally Posted by OnlyOneCanoli

As I said before. I will be able to pay everyone back in full as soon as my tax return is recieved. If there is anyone who would buy a snake from me and pay someone I owe directly. I would ship you the snake first and upon being revived you send the funds to someone I owe I would be willing to do that. Nobody will buy any snakes from me so I could us the money to pay back my debts. This is a option I'm willing to do. If anyone has any other ideas of how I could pay them back faster than my tax return I'm willing to try. Again I will make this right I just can't do it as fast as everyone would like.

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Originally Posted by OnlyOneCanoli

Luke please contact me thru email and if I have something you would take as payment I will send it as soon as we make a deal and post tracking here so whomever would like to see it can. If I have to send multiple snakes that's what I will do. As far as rich is concerned I sent him a specter male and 300 from the very beginning the only part of that deal he did not get was a fishing setup. I offered to send him a specter female but he wanted to do a deal for multiple snakes which is what happened the other day but he sent them to Paul and I held my shipment because I was thinking he was just trying to take my snakes and say who cares nobody would if he took my snakes. I still have the specter female if he wants that to make that deal done and paid for. If I could make a deal with Luke and he is happy with a snake or snakes to suffice my debt I will ship on Monday. And also my aunt did pass away and you could check the obituaries if you would like.

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One point.

You are already expressly forbidden from buying and selling on this site.

Please keep these offers to forums where that is not the case or restrict yourself to paying people back without any other parties putting themselves at risk of being scammed.

Luke please contact me via email I would like to send you the 50 payment today and every Friday untill my taxes come in I can't find your email and address to send you a payment. Thanks. Again sorry to all and I will try to make this right as fast as I can.

Yep....still haven't seen a penny....

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Originally Posted by Luke Martin

Yep....still haven't seen a penny....

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Wow... What a loser. Good luck canoli, you're gonna need a whole lot in court! Haha


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It's all a game to him stringing it all out. Legal action would be the only way to recoupe your money. All parties need to call local police in his area. If there are forms that need to be picked up I can grab and mail to all parties. I really wannna see this d bag face when they slap the cuffs on him in front of his family's home. Priceless. I'm calling it now there will be more excuses for not getting a return. He never got check. Dog ate it etc etc etc

Ya know, I have been reading these threads (this one and the whole
Thing about snakeg whatever his name is....) and I think 'these bums make it a heck of a lot harder for honest people who aren't really known, and may want to do business/need a payment plan, etc. to be trusted.' I think it's really irritating that crooks can make things harder for honest people!!! I shouldn't have to feel like I have to over-explain myself or try to convince a person to trust me because of jerks like these. Just irritating -_-

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Originally Posted by pprunier

Hahaha when u get your taxes my ass. Where is the 600 u got to get that het Russo u where gonna buy. U got cash stop bulling everyone pay them back. U just bought that Mojave last week where did that come from. How u paying for rats to feed that collection. Sal put on your big boy pants and be a friggin man. Pay your debts u have the cash don't sit here and blow smoke up our asses. O FYI he is being looked into already takes time to compile a slam dunk case. His time will soon be up.

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This kid is one of kind. He burned a buddy of mine he has been using whatever happens in the world as a excuse. Just few weeks ago said a family was in the newtown shooting or his aunt died like 50 times. He was supposed to make good on a trade he never sent for my buddy. Sal said he would do a trade with the Spector owed to my buddy with few others for few more my buddy's snake. I told him not to do the trade. He instead sent the snakes to me. Once sal new they snakes where her in ct he was supposed to release a tracking number from ups because he works there. Well he had more lies and bs and had the snake sent back to him. Never gave a tracking. Now sal was supposed to call me and pay for shipping back to my buddy he will never come threw on any deal. He has a case being built against him as we speak. More evidence is needed. He will soon be doing time with bubba as this is not his first run in with the law. Sal ill make sure i drop off soap on a rope for ya. Your gonna need it. He can also be seen at white plains show I got a few pics of him if u wanna know who to look for

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Can you send me his pic as well as I vend at White Plains and want to avoid this scammer... thanks

So I have got me Rhode Island , ct & mass state returns all back federal this week. So sal have u got yours to pay back these people.

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Yep....still haven't seen a penny....

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Wow. A very very small part of me was actually thinking you might get something back. Guess Canoli is looking forward to getting his salad tossed