Question about Genetics

[Bigfish1975]

Markers, papers are completelty irrelevant what is, is whether or not you are buying from a reputable breeder?

Paperwork are only as good as the breeder is.

So is the breeder reputable, did you check his rep, did you ask around?



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This is very true. Anyone can print up a "certificate" that says whatever they want you to hear. Reputation is a very good thing in this business/hobby.

[OhhWatALoser]

Visual Albino Pied x 100% double het Albino Pied= 50% het Albino Pied and 50% visual Albino Pied
100% het Albino Pied x 100% het Albino Pied = 25% visual pied and 75% 66% possible het Albino Pied

This is wrong. Double recessive x double het you can get albinos het pied and pieds het albino. Double het x double het makes albino 66% het pied and pied 66% het albino.

The reason you can't see the het pied markers is because the markers even if they are there, are black, albino gets rid of black so there is no markers to see, present or not.

[BCS]

This is wrong. Double recessive x double het you can get albinos het pied and pieds het albino. Double het x double het makes albino 66% het pied and pied 66% het albino.

The reason you can't see the het pied markers is because the markers even if they are there, are black, albino gets rid of black so there is no markers to see, present or not.

Oh man you are so right... total brain fart! Thank you for pointing that out.

[OhhWatALoser]

Oh man you are so right... total brain fart! Thank you for pointing that out.

Lol happens to all of us, just don't want some poor noob getting confused

[Albert Clark]

Markers, papers are completelty irrelevant what is, is whether or not you are buying from a reputable breeder?

Paperwork are only as good as the breeder is.

So is the breeder reputable, did you check his rep, did you ask around?



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If someone who is breeding and wants to provide documentation about the genetics of the animals he is selling is and should be looked at as positive and a guarantee to the buyer that the animal is what it's being sold as. That is proof. When you go to the store and buy a product you get a receipt, if the product doesnt perform up to standards and your dissatisfied you return to the store with your receipt to either get a refund or exchange. The receipt is documentation that you purchased the product and gives you a certain amount of protection. That is what documentation is for. Protection. That seems to be the way to start to build a positive reputation by guaranteeing your products. That should be applauded and not discounted. This is my opinion on it. Documentation should also make the customers feel more protected as well.

[PitOnTheProwl]

If someone who is breeding and wants to provide documentation about the genetics of the animals he is selling is and should be looked at as positive and a guarantee to the buyer that the animal is what it's being sold as. That is proof. When you go to the store and buy a product you get a receipt, if the product doesnt perform up to standards and your dissatisfied you return to the store with your receipt to either get a refund or exchange. The receipt is documentation that you purchased the product and gives you a certain amount of protection. That is what documentation is for. Protection. That seems to be the way to start to build a positive reputation by guaranteeing your products. That should be applauded and not discounted. This is my opinion on it. Documentation should also make the customers feel more protected as well.

The problem is there are too many scams in this hobby. If you think about it, het female with papers........ Two to three years to grow her out and then two to three breedings to try a prove her. You really think you will find your seller six to seven years later?
That's why I constantly push on being honest and upfront, your name here is all you have and one little slip can screw you forever.

[Albert Clark]

The problem is there are too many scams in this hobby. If you think about it, het female with papers........ Two to three years to grow her out and then two to three breedings to try a prove her. You really think you will find your seller six to seven years later?
That's why I constantly push on being honest and upfront, your name here is all you have and one little slip can screw you forever.

Well, some of us who are breeding are not scammers and are attempting to build a honest and reputable business. Also with technology at the pace it is you can find any fact or person at a whim. This country,and all of law ,and medicine is based on documents and paperwork, research is paperwork.Why is or should the reptile industry be exempted? We can't just expect people to believe us at only words. Action speaks louder than words. Writing it down means a lot. I was always taught that if it isnt written down it never happened and didnt exist. Paperwork is the backbone of any business transaction as well. Thanks.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

If someone who is breeding and wants to provide documentation about the genetics of the animals he is selling is and should be looked at as positive and a guarantee to the buyer that the animal is what it's being sold as. That is proof. When you go to the store and buy a product you get a receipt, if the product doesnt perform up to standards and your dissatisfied you return to the store with your receipt to either get a refund or exchange. The receipt is documentation that you purchased the product and gives you a certain amount of protection. That is what documentation is for. Protection. That seems to be the way to start to build a positive reputation by guaranteeing your products. That should be applauded and not discounted. This is my opinion on it. Documentation should also make the customers feel more protected as well.

All that is nice but a store providing a receipt and a "breeder" providing paperwork are two different things.

You buy a microwave and it does not work you return it the same day or within the next 30 days (which is standard for returns) and you get your money back or an exchange. The store will not be gone in 30 days.

You buy from a breeder with little to know rep (and those days with social medias they are plenty), you get a nice piece of paper telling you all about genetics of your animals, you raise your animals breed them this could be taken anywhere between 3 to 5 years or more and the animals do not prove and now the "breeder" has vanished (like many do each year), what do you have left an nice piece of paper.

The majority of well known REPUTABLE breeder will not provide paperwork what does that tell you? A piece of paper means VERY little.

I provide paperwork however the reason I do it's to ease the re-sell of my animals should one of my customer sell their animals, and I can tell you that even if I did not provide paperwork I would still guarantee my animals.

Again the paperwork is only as good as the breeder is.

[blk02ssmonte]

Ok the person I am talking to about the snake is Michael Cole....BallRoom Pythons South. I now see who he is and most things are good that I have read. Thoughts?

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Ok the person I am talking to about the snake is Michael Cole....BallRoom Pythons South. I now see who he is and most things are good that I have read. Thoughts?

Than you have nothing to worry about, paperwork or not, markers or not.