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    Oh, one thing I wanted to add. Although incomplete dominance and codominance do not mean the same thing, they do work exactly the same as far as inheritance patterns. So although it isn't technically correct, it works for predicting what % of a clutch is likely to be what morph.
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    Re: A clutch I definitely won't forget! When bad odds finally turn good...

    Quote Originally Posted by rascal_rascal_99 View Post
    Thats what I thought also...but the babies in the clutch say differently. The father to the clutch is an older hypo pastel who has fathered a lot of clutches so it's definitely not him and this was a first time breeding for the female, so no chances of it coming from anywhere else. I think you should be able to see the enchi in the pastel easy enough in the last picture I posted of the clutch. Comparing the babies to ones my friend has from a super enchi x superblast pairing last season erased any question for us looking at them in person.

    If anyone here is in the southeast, I am planning to have the whole clutch at the Dixie reptile show in Birmingham AL at the July show, you're welcome to come check them out in person.
    The baby pics are what I saw to see there was no Enchi in that clutch...Mom pics back it up...Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble!

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    I don't see the Enchi either, but still a great hit on those hypos! Beautiful clutch!
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    Re: A clutch I definitely won't forget! When bad odds finally turn good...

    So did you ever find anyone with more experience to confirm these all have Enchi in them?


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    Re: A clutch I definitely won't forget! When bad odds finally turn good...

    In the OPs defense you can find no less than six Enchis that look almost exactly like the female he posted with a two second Google image search, some of them have known breeder watermarks on the pictures. This particular board more than any other has this romantic idea about the perfect Enchi and what it should look like.

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    In this board's defense, you can also search my name on Google and get results that would tell you I'm an attorney in Chicago. I'm not either if those things.
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    Re: A clutch I definitely won't forget! When bad odds finally turn good...

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Alan View Post
    In this board's defense, you can also search my name on Google and get results that would tell you I'm an attorney in Chicago. I'm not either if those things.
    Neither here nor there. What is your point? My point is you can find plenty of "Enchis" online from MANY different sources that look exactly like the OPs snake and I'm not even stating his snake is an Enchi. Basically from what I've actually seen and read is if it's not a textbook example of an Enchi...it's not an Enchi. Sorry it stings.

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    Re: A clutch I definitely won't forget! When bad odds finally turn good...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ransack View Post
    Neither here nor there. What is your point? My point is you can find plenty of "Enchis" online from MANY different sources that look exactly like the OPs snake and I'm not even stating his snake is an Enchi. Basically from what I've actually seen and read is if it's not a textbook example of an Enchi...it's not an Enchi. Sorry it stings.
    My point is simply that anyone can make a square peg fit in a round hole by making the hole bigger. Just because it fits, doesn't make it round.

    I understand your point as well, and am not offended by your comments at all. I don't think there's anything wrong with having a grasp on what good looks like when it comes to any particular morph - Enchi or otherwise. Sometimes those desired characteristics are personal preferences, and sometimes those characteristics have been defined by the morph itself. A knowledge of these things is beneficial when making purchase or holdback decisions for your own collection and consequently being able to identify and market the babies you produce.

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    Congrats on a good looking group POGs and SPOGs are always great but I don't see any trace of enchi in them at all either.

    FYI, just because you read it on the net or google doesn't make it true.

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    Also seeing no enchi. Banding and pattern reduction are highly heritable traits - I think that's why you have 6 babies with the same 'enchi-esque' look. The colors and head patterns are all off. Great babies and great odds, though!
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