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    Re: How to tell if you have a sub Saharan ball python?

    Quote Originally Posted by dylanjwicklund View Post
    Yea volta is what I'm talking about but in what I was reading people said sub Saharan and volta are the same but that's what I was wondering if she's volta because the rapid growth with normal feedings the male sibling ate the same for along time just until a few months back when I started feeding her large instead of medium because of breeding

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    People make that mistake often. Sub saharan just means below the sahara, while Volta is in fact sub Saharan, it is a very small area compared to the rest of the continent. I think the only way you'll be able to tell is in the long run. When the snake gets a few years old and it seems very heavy, and longer than what might be considered "average", then you might have a good idea if it is in fact from that area or not
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    Re: How to tell if you have a sub Saharan ball python?

    Yea I know that lol just wondering how to tell if she is one

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    Re: How to tell if you have a sub Saharan ball python?

    Quote Originally Posted by SKO View Post
    People make that mistake often. Sub saharan just means below the sahara, while Volta is in fact sub Saharan, it is a very small area compared to the rest of the continent. I think the only way you'll be able to tell is in the long run. When the snake gets a few years old and it seems very heavy, and longer than what might be considered "average", then you might have a good idea if it is in fact from that area or not
    Thnx that's what I was looking for

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    Re: How to tell if you have a sub Saharan ball python?

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    She actually looks over weight to me.
    I'm rather leaning toward this assessment as well. This snake is very round and has obvious fat rolls. The head is tiny compared the rest of her body and her spine looks sunken. You have a fat snake.

    The volta ball pythons don't just weigh a lot, they're proportionately larger. If you look at some videos of specimens in people's collections when they're in the same frame as the person you will see the snake is quite large. It's especially noticeable if you compare the head to that of a normal ball python.

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    Re: How to tell if you have a sub Saharan ball python?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lizardlicks View Post
    I'm rather leaning toward this assessment as well. This snake is very round and has obvious fat rolls. The head is tiny compared the rest of her body and her spine looks sunken. You have a fat snake.

    The volta ball pythons don't just weigh a lot, they're proportionately larger. If you look at some videos of specimens in people's collections when they're in the same frame as the person you will see the snake is quite large. It's especially noticeable if you compare the head to that of a normal ball python.
    Omg lol your not taking into consideration she is most likely gravid this is why she looks like that

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    Re: How to tell if you have a sub Saharan ball python?

    When she wasn't she was a very nice build and it made her look way longer then she really was

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    Re: How to tell if you have a sub Saharan ball python?

    Yea and if I got her to strech out next to me I'm 6 ft and got a picture she isn't fat off

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    Re: How to tell if you have a sub Saharan ball python?

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    Re: How to tell if you have a sub Saharan ball python?

    Yea and the head thing u mentioned is what first drew me to think she was because it's different then all my others all mine look kind triangle while hers gets round

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    Re: How to tell if you have a sub Saharan ball python?

    Okay. Here is a snake that is gravid. (Pic from wiki commons)



    She is wider, yes, but she's still has a defined spine and no fat rolls when she coils, just some normal wrinkles.

    Here is a pic of a snake who is obese which I yoinked from from wheremyscalesslither's post about recognizing obesity in ball pythons, which you should probably read. (They grabbed it from a facebook group post but did not credit the source so as not to direct unwanted attention at the owner of the snake).



    Observe the sunken spine and fat rolls. Now go look at your snake again. Eggs do not cause those kinds of rolls. In fact, they're large, solid objects inside the female's body and make tightly coiling kind of hard/uncomfortable. She could very well be also gravid, but she is definitely a bit on the chunky monkey side.

    Also, taking a third look at your pic, it looks like your male might be having a bad shed?

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