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    Black Pastel X Pastel = ????

    Would you get a super pastel??? or what???

    And has anyone produced one,(if so can you post pictures) which im guessing someone has since it is so simple!!!
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    Re: Black Pastel X Pastel = ????

    A pewter
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    Re: Black Pastel X Pastel = ????

    A pewter
    OOOO ya, because in that line of genes the cinnamon and black pastel can be flip-flopped!!!

    And correct me if im wrong but the black pastel X cinnamon is the super cinnamon/black pastel, which is the all black snake!!

    I just had one of my brain-farts!!!
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    Re: Black Pastel X Pastel = ????

    Technically it would be a Black Pewter to distinguish between the Cinny Pewter which is normally called just a Pewter
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    Re: Black Pastel X Pastel = ????

    Technically it would be a Black Pewter to distinguish between the Cinny Pewter which is normally called just a Pewter
    But they are one in the same!!! I know there is a slit different, but they do look ALOT alike!!!
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    Re: Black Pastel X Pastel = ????

    Quote Originally Posted by tjones View Post
    But they are one in the same!!! I know there is a slit different, but they do look ALOT alike!!!
    This depends on who you talk to. I like to think that they are different.

    So, I label them accordingly.
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    Re: Black Pastel X Pastel = ????

    Quote Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    Technically it would be a Black Pewter to distinguish between the Cinny Pewter which is normally called just a Pewter
    She is correct. I should have said black pewter. I would label them as a cinnamon pewter or black pewter depending on which I used. Thanks Heather and sorry for the confusion!!!
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    Re: Black Pastel X Pastel = ????

    The breeding that will reveal if cinnamon and black pastel are variants of the same gene or are allelic would be to breed a cinnamon/Black Pastel (super) to a normal. The resulting offspring should show the same pattern that you seen when you breed a mojave/lesser (BEL super) to a normal (that is, you will get normals, mojaves, lessers, and BELs from the Mojave/Lesser BEL X Normal breeding).

    If cinnamon and black pastel were the same gene, this breeding would produce 100% black pastel/cinnamon-looking animals which should be an intergrade between the two morphs. If cinnamon and black pastel are allelic, then this breeding would produce normals, cinnamons, and black pastels which will all be distinct from one another.

    Since it's been widely stated that cinnamon and black pastel are allelic, I have to assume that this breeding has already been done.

    So, it's not a matter of opinion at all--it's either one or the other, genetically, and will be definitive when proven (if it hasn't been already).
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    Re: Black Pastel X Pastel = ????

    Ok I guess I should specify if it is a black pewter or a cinnamon pewter!!

    But when most people say pewter it is a cinnamon pewter, just like saying cinnamon pastel=cinnamon!!!
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    Re: Black Pastel X Pastel = ????

    Quote Originally Posted by tjones View Post
    Ok I guess I should specify if it is a black pewter or a cinnamon pewter!!

    But when most people say pewter it is a cinnamon pewter, just like saying cinnamon pastel=cinnamon!!!
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