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    what dimensions of the enclosure will i need...

    hey guys, i own one ball python already (and for those who remember me he is doing absolutely amazing!) and id like to add another one (probably an albino)

    so i have a couple questions

    - How well do they get along? i know they will tolerate eachother usually, but will there be fighting or anything of the like?

    - what dimensions should the enclosure be for 2 full grown balls?

    and another question, is there a way to sex these guys besides probing?

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    Re: what dimensions of the enclosure will i need...

    it is not healthy at all to house two ball pythons together. there are a number of reasons why and if you search the site im sure you will find plenty.
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    Re: what dimensions of the enclosure will i need...

    Never house 2 snakes in the same enclosure

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    Re: what dimensions of the enclosure will i need...

    the diemensions are...

    ...2 separate tanks.
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    Re: what dimensions of the enclosure will i need...

    You can pop them instead of probing to determine sex.
    Refrain from getting another snake until you have another enclosure


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    Re: what dimensions of the enclosure will i need...

    2 separate enclosures at all times. They can be as simple as tubs, but they must be separate.

    As for sexing, there's another method called 'popping' that experienced keepers can do. It doesn't use any tools, but you have to know what you're doing. It can be taught, however.

    And, as far as the enclosures go, remember that you can build a rack or two stacking display enclosures to save space and money. There are lots of ways to reduce money and space use for multiple snakes...and most of us here have mastered them.
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    Re: what dimensions of the enclosure will i need...

    its actually that bad to house 2 of them together? i have a friend that breeds them and he keeps many of them together, and they are fine, i was just looking for second opinions. it was going to be a very large tank (i know glass arent recommended, but ive had no problems keeping humidity and temps proper) i was thinking about buying a tank about 48x18x18 in inches for them, and providing a ton of hiding spots, making it as natural looking as possible, (not so natural to the point i wont be able to get at any waste in the tank).

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    Re: what dimensions of the enclosure will i need...

    glass are totally recommended! They're a perfectly fine choice, just not quite as easy to keep temps/humidity right as tubs and ABS plastic side-opening cages.

    It is very much recommended to NOT house ball pythons together. If you've got space for a large cage, hopefully you've got space for two smaller cages. Sorry, but that's the advice you'll get from everyone here.

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    Re: what dimensions of the enclosure will i need...

    Yep, separate enclosures for sure.

    We know people do it but that doesn't mean that it's a good idea to keep snakes together. They 'cuddle' people say, NO they're fighting for the best hide. They get lonely and look for each other when I separate them, NO they're more active because they're less stressed. Really its a bad idea. BP's just get stressed but some other snakes (like kings) will eat each other so be careful.

    Putting snakes together temporarily to breed is different than expecting them to live their entire lives stressed out by an 'intruder'

    Plus, two smaller enclosures are much easier to maintain than one big one. So do that instead.
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    Re: what dimensions of the enclosure will i need...

    alright, if i do plan to get another one i will get separate enclosures for them, darn, i was hoping they would be fine together, as i figured the idea of having a couple in the same tank would be neat, darn, oh well, i will do whats best for my snake then, im not jeopardizing his/her happiness for myself, so i will stick with him by himself

    so my next question, what size tank would be ideal for a single ball python, is it like my fish (bigger the better)? or is there a maximum size i should go by? do they get stressed from to large of a cage? could a keep just a single in a 70g tank? (48x18x18)?

    im not looking for minimum tanksize, im looking for ideal tank size.

    oh ya, as far as ease of keeping smaller cages, i was fully ready to do extra maintenance in order to keep 2 and a larger tank , i just want the snake to be as happy as possible, i dont care if it means extra work for me

    thanx for all the help guys

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