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    Re: treating belly/scale rot


    an improvement if ive ever seen one... dont you think?

    Mochelem, thanks for your input!! Its certainly very helpful. How long after he heals should we keep him in QT? How long is typical no-breeding rest? Our female who we would breed with him wont be ready to start until November anyway so I was wondering if thats enough time for him? (assuming it clears up 100% quickly)

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    Re: treating belly/scale rot

    Yes it does look better. As long as your seeing progress then continue treatment.. The biggest thing is to keep it clean.

    But after seeing a close up pic Im 95% sure thats over breeding. If you look at the pics in the book here they look very similar...

    Have you talked to the person you got the snakes from about this?

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    Re: treating belly/scale rot

    He's a nice spider and i'm glad he's getting better..............but why would anybody bring that guy to a show and attempt to sell him like that?
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    Re: treating belly/scale rot

    He's nice Ashley I'm glad that spider will get proper care now. Some people just don't care about there animals.
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    Re: treating belly/scale rot

    No, hes in Daytona... ive already come home. When I spoke to him about it he said it isnt him who cares for the snakes, its his staff.. a really crummy answer if you ask me. Believe it or not it was ARS Caging.. he said he builds/does the racks and his staff takes care of his collection of breeding animals. Very nice guy, honestly had no idea what to sell his animals for. He wrote down $250.00 for the spider and low prices for adult male cinnamons, he was phasing out his older breeding males and bringing in new younger males that hes grown up. Another man (his friend) came by and started changing prices as we were making our deal... we went back later and all his prices went up at least a hundred on many of his animals.

    The spider was actually not on display, we bought the two cinnamon males and asked if he had anything else, thats when he said he had the spider male he was waiting for someone to buy the cinnamons before putting out the spider (not enough large display cages) we snatched up all three. I figured he did look like he needed a bit of TLC but otherwise looked fine.

    Thanks for the comments everyone!

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    Re: treating belly/scale rot

    Quote Originally Posted by Reediculous View Post
    He's a nice spider and i'm glad he's getting better..............but why would anybody bring that guy to a show and attempt to sell him like that?
    On the other hand, why would anybody go to a show and buy an animal like that?

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    Re: treating belly/scale rot

    Quote Originally Posted by m00kfu View Post
    On the other hand, why would anybody go to a show and buy an animal like that?
    Because if someone has the know-how or ability to do so.. make the animal better why wouldnt they? We certainly couldnt afford to rake out $600 on a breeding size male spider, the animal has a need for TLC, some basic care and maybe a vet visit but once thats all said and done we will have paid very little for a nice animal. Why wouldnt someone do that?

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    Re: treating belly/scale rot

    Quote Originally Posted by ADEE View Post
    Because if someone has the know-how or ability to do so.. make the animal better why wouldnt they? We certainly couldnt afford to rake out $600 on a breeding size male spider, the animal has a need for TLC, some basic care and maybe a vet visit but once thats all said and done we will have paid very little for a nice animal. Why wouldnt someone do that?
    I guess our point of views just differ when it comes to purchasing animals. As SatanicIntention mentioned, the conditions of the housing usually have to be pretty bad for quite a while to start a case of scale rot. And if that's the case, who knows what other kind of health problems might be waiting to pop up on you.
    As for having a breeding size male, you shouldn't have much trouble finding an early 08 or late 07 male for less than $600, and easily get it up to size within the year -- possibly even by the time he's done with quarantine.
    Maybe it's just a freak occurance for one of the breeder's animals to have a health problem, but from the sounds of it he's not very hands on and doesn't really know what's going on with his snakes. I guess I'm just not willing to give my money to someone selling snakes with below average health.

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    Re: treating belly/scale rot

    Sorry if I offended anyone with veterinary "jargon". Butters, no one could understand a word you said. Punctuation is your FRIEND!

    Ashley, what I told you was exactly what a vet, my vet(who is an exotics specialist who owns her own practice and teaches a veterinary technology program at a college I went to), would have told you.

    It could be the beginnings of scale rot, it could be irritation from breeding too many females without a break, or it could be a minor burn. All of which are treated almost the same way. Keep clean, treat area with antibacterial/antifungal and apply polysporin(generic neosporin).

    If the veterinary jargon is confusing, then just ask I never mind explaining things in an easier-to-understand way. But really, we all know what polysporin is(neosporin, just generic and therefore less expensive), sulfadene is a burn cream your kid's doctor has probably given you sometime over the life of your children(from burns, fungal infections or sunburn), and betadine or chlorhexidine is easy to obtain. Betadine at your local pharmacy or WalMart, and chlorhexidine most everyone uses to clean snake tubs.

    How was what I said confusing?
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    Re: treating belly/scale rot

    Quote Originally Posted by SatanicIntention View Post
    Sorry if I offended anyone with veterinary "jargon". Butters, no one could understand a word you said. Punctuation is your FRIEND!

    Ashley, what I told you was exactly what a vet, my vet(who is an exotics specialist who owns her own practice and teaches a veterinary technology program at a college I went to), would have told you.

    It could be the beginnings of scale rot, it could be irritation from breeding too many females without a break, or it could be a minor burn. All of which are treated almost the same way. Keep clean, treat area with antibacterial/antifungal and apply polysporin(generic neosporin).

    If the veterinary jargon is confusing, then just ask I never mind explaining things in an easier-to-understand way. But really, we all know what polysporin is(neosporin, just generic and therefore less expensive), sulfadene is a burn cream your kid's doctor has probably given you sometime over the life of your children(from burns, fungal infections or sunburn), and betadine or chlorhexidine is easy to obtain. Betadine at your local pharmacy or WalMart, and chlorhexidine most everyone uses to clean snake tubs.

    How was what I said confusing?
    sorry to jack this thread but all you wanted was to sound professional.if you could not read wat i typed i feel sorry for you.i was in no way offended by your post,just trying to give info w/o the person having to look in a dictionary.not all of us know the chemical names for these things and if im the only one then i must be stupid.thanks for attacking me and my text!especially since all i was trying to do was help.i appreciate it!

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