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Fact - I have proven poss het pieds with markers to be hets several times.
Fiction - I've never proven a possible het with marker to be a het, or only once or twice, with others that had the markers not proving out.
Undecided - I've seen it go both ways.
speaking of petsmart hets. this male i got for free from petsmart because they couldn't get rid of mites.......go figure. any way looks at his belly. i know its not for certain but i will definately try to prove him out.
http://www.ball-pythons.net/gallery/...0/dsc00681.jpg
Last edited by dr del; 04-21-2008 at 10:07 PM. Reason: picture larger than 800 pixels wide
I have two 100% het pieds and both have similar bellies. I do not believe it is always the case, but it seems to be a good indicator. Honestly if all het pieds had the marker, I think hets/piebalds would be considered co-dom rather than a simple recessive!
This post from kingsnake... interesting influence of the het pied trait on cinnimons. These are cinnimons 100% het pieds.
http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1518598,1518598
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Warning: Snakes have been shown to cause death in laboratory rats.
That is very interesting, looks like a ringer. I think the super cinny pied would be very coolOriginally Posted by jkobylka
My 100% male has the marker.
personally, you cant go wrong by trying to prove out a marker.
idk if i would get a snake just because it has a marker. but i do know that if i was choosing between a couple pos hets, my money would be going towards one with a marker...
2.0 Ball Pythons
0.1 Red Tail Boas
1.4 Rabbits
0.1 German Shepherd
or a pewter pied!!That is very interesting, looks like a ringer. I think the super cinny pied would be very cool
raymond
With all this talk about het or not...you need to prove each case out...I applaud Justin with his findings.. To those that have normal in apperance females with a marker why are not trying to prove yours out. As many larger breeders do sell lower priced hets to the box stores as normals....Even het to het will produce normal looking babies that could be hets....Dont you love this hobby....
Here is my male pastel that i saved for my dinker project possible het pied and yes he has the markers but came from africa so don't know his parents. He was bred this year to a pastel 100% het pied female so we will see. Pastel pieds would be great
Repti-Rob
“Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake.”
W. C. Fields
1.1 VPI Axanthic BP (Jack&Samantha), 1.1 100% het for Jolliff Clown BP (Napoleon&Hathor),0.1 Pastel nerd line BP (Pascal),0.1 Pastel BP (no name),0.0.8 BP Hatchlings from my breedings, 0.1 Retic Python (she's about 12' right now) ,1.1 Kenya sand boas (Sandy&Dusty)
1.0 Ring Tailed Lemur (Alexander) my baby boy
Right you are, your petstore bp may not be a normal, especially if its a male... and especially if you buy from my local petstore!
Good luck! One thing I've learned is, YOU NEVER KNOW!Here is my male pastel that i saved for my dinker project possible het pied and yes he has the markers but came from africa so don't know his parents. He was bred this year to a pastel 100% het pied female so we will see. Pastel pieds would be great
J. Kobylka Reptiles Website
Check out the 2012 JKR incubator!
Warning: Snakes have been shown to cause death in laboratory rats.
Here are some of my females that are hets or possible hets...
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