This thread has gone way off the original subject and I think its really crappy that someone like you would come in here and start talking about how you are keeping young and sick rats together and letting them breed. I love my rats and even if you don't care for rats you still need to be providing them with the best possible care. Many of mine are pets and beloved members of the family. The other breeders and even feeders are treated no less than pets (we just are not attached to them). All get clean water, fresh food, and clean bedding. If they are sick, they go to the vet, no questions asked. (Unless its a feeder and then it gets euthanized)