To say that something can experience fear isn't necessarily saying its capable of emotion. Everything has a fight or flight reaction to stimulation, so there is your "fear" I suppose. But, I agree that it's snake love and not the way we define love. They just get an understand of "the hand that feeds", I think.
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To say that something can experience fear isn't necessarily saying its capable of emotion. Everything has a fight or flight reaction to stimulation, so there is your "fear" I suppose. But, I agree that it's snake love and not the way we define love. They just get an understand of "the hand that feeds", I think.
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Yeah, the Fight or Flight is an instinct, not an emotion.
To give it some prespective, it wasn't long ago that people considered dolphins 'fish' and thought that they weren't intelligent either. Similar thought was also applied to the great apes.
So to say that they do not have emotion is a bit of a narrow view.
What would be a more logical statement would be:
We currently do not have the means to determine with 100% certainty whether or not they are capable of emotions.
So to say for sure one way or another is to be ignorant of the fact that we just can't know at this time with our current technology and experience in analyzing thought/emotion in other species.
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To give it some prespective, it wasn't long ago that people considered dolphins 'fish' and thought that they weren't intelligent either. Similar thought was also applied to the great apes.
So to say that they do not have emotion is a bit of a narrow view.
What would be a more logical statement would be:
We currently do not have the means to determine with 100% certainty whether or not they are capable of emotions.
So to say for sure one way or another is to be ignorant of the fact that we just can't know at this time with our current technology and experience in analyzing thought/emotion in other species.
I completely agree with you. Humans underestimate the intelligence of other animals (Which is what humans are- animals). What gives us the right to judge others intelligence? I'm sure all animals know more than what we think they do. I'm sure that some are even smarter than us.
It's just that we don't know for sure; Maybe we never will.
So my opinion would be: Undecided/Unsure (due to lack of information)
The biggest difference between snakes and dolphins / humans / dogs / etc is that snakes are not social animals. Naturally, they receive no benefit from social interaction beyond breeding. They do not raise their young or hunt in packs or thrive in communities. We are emotionally attached to other humans because we need to be. Snakes do not. Many animals besides ourselves are capable of feeling emotion, but asocial animals such as snakes are not.
To give it some prespective, it wasn't long ago that people considered dolphins 'fish' and thought that they weren't intelligent either. Similar thought was also applied to the great apes.
So to say that they do not have emotion is a bit of a narrow view.
What would be a more logical statement would be:
We currently do not have the means to determine with 100% certainty whether or not they are capable of emotions.
So to say for sure one way or another is to be ignorant of the fact that we just can't know at this time with our current technology and experience in analyzing thought/emotion in other species.
Absolutely not. We can know that snakes don't feel emotion as they lack certain parts of the brain, parts that humans and dolphins possess, that process emotion. Also, to say that you will with hold any decision either way until we have 100% certainty that they dont feel emotion is you putting yourself out of ever having to make a decision. Scientific findings typically find 95% or higher probability to be statistically significant, so setting the bar at 100% is rather convenient for you, isn't it?
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To say that something can experience fear isn't necessarily saying its capable of emotion. Everything has a fight or flight reaction to stimulation, so there is your "fear" I suppose. But, I agree that it's snake love and not the way we define love. They just get an understand of "the hand that feeds", I think.
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