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    Is my female royal python a phantom??

    I got my female royal python in January and the person who sold he to me said she was a phantom?

    I know she is definitely not a normal, so I just want to see if he sold me the right morph, I don't mind either way as she's fun to keep..











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    Yeah I think so.

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    What distinguishes a Phantom from a Normal?
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    Re: Is my female royal python a phantom??

    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    What distinguishes a Phantom from a Normal?
    Kevin from nerd said it best. "A phantom looks like a low quality mojave". Generally they are darker than a mojave. Mine have all have curly q's coming off the dorsal. There are usually more round floaters than u would see in a mojave. The OP's snake sure looks like a phantom to me but it is missing a few things I see in my stock. I am basing my guess more on coloration than anything else in this case. These can really be hard in my opinion. I have a girl in my collection now that was sold to me as a mojave but I have suspicions that she is either mystic or phantom. If she puts on another three hundred grams I will know for sure next breeding season. Telling a mystic and phantom apart is another ball game. To me the mystic and phantom look pretty much the same in heterogeneous form however to my eye the phantom produces a better homozygous. This may be more due to line breeding though. In any case I love all the BEL complex stuff.

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    Re: Is my female royal python a phantom??

    Quote Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan View Post
    Kevin from nerd said it best. "A phantom looks like a low quality mojave". Generally they are darker than a mojave. Mine have all have curly q's coming off the dorsal. There are usually more round floaters than u would see in a mojave. The OP's snake sure looks like a phantom to me but it is missing a few things I see in my stock. I am basing my guess more on coloration than anything else in this case. These can really be hard in my opinion. I have a girl in my collection now that was sold to me as a mojave but I have suspicions that she is either mystic or phantom. If she puts on another three hundred grams I will know for sure next breeding season. Telling a mystic and phantom apart is another ball game. To me the mystic and phantom look pretty much the same in heterogeneous form however to my eye the phantom produces a better homozygous. This may be more due to line breeding though. In any case I love all the BEL complex stuff.
    I have a Mystic and agree that it looks like a "low quality Mojave" in that the colors are more tan and the blacks darker otherwise very similar pattern as a Mojave. That being said, I definitely can't tell the difference between a Mystic and a Phantom. I have seen some Phantoms at recent reptile shows and to me they look the same as a Mystic.

    And to the original Poster, I also think its a Phantom/Mystic.

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