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    Re: Breeding Bee combos?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    Surely there's a massive chance of wobble when you're pairing Bee combos together ??
    Wobble is always present in every spider combo.

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    Breeding Bee combos?

    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxygirl View Post
    Wobble is always present in every spider combo.
    What do you regard as a 'combo' ?

    I have a Caramel Albino Spider which has no wobble whatsoever ...... I have no intention of breeding from it though .
    Last edited by Zincubus; 11-29-2015 at 09:05 AM.




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    Re: Breeding Bee combos?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    What do you regard as a 'combo' ?

    I have a Caramel Albino Spider which has no wobble whatsoever ...... I have no intention of breeding from it though .
    Every spider has the potential to wobble, doesn't matter if it is in a combo or not. When a ball python has the spider gene, it changes the pattern, but also changes them neurologically, it is more noticeable in some more than others, but the change still happens with the gene. You don't get one change without the other.

    Your original question asked if breeding spider x spider would result in a massive chance of the wobble, the answer is no. It is the exact same chance. Here is why:
    Male:
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    Percent Fraction Traits
    25% 1/4 Homozygous Spider
    50% 1/2 Spider
    25% 1/4 Normal

    normals obviously have no issues, the spiders made from spider x spider are still heterozygous spiders, there is no difference between them and one made from a spider x normal pairing. The homozygous spider is the elusive one.

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    Re: Breeding Bee combos?

    Thank you guys for making this post more of a conversation then an argument. I'm glad that there are so many open minded breeders here. I paired my female killer bee with my lesser bee and on 21NOV she laid 6 good eggs, no slugs and all candled with strong veins.

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    Re: Breeding Bee combos?

    Awesome, keep us updated on hatching. Would love to see pics of the babies

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    Re: Breeding Bee combos?

    Update on my lesser bee X killer bee clutch. Out of the 6 good eggs, we lost 2. One on day 35 and another on day 42 (today is day 44). We did have an equipment malfunction right before the first one started to go bad and that was also when the 2nd one sunk in though it lasted a bit longer. I do believe that malfunction is the reason they died, not because of the pairing. I did dissect the 2nd one to turn it into a learning experience and if you wish I can post them here

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    Re: Breeding Bee combos?

    Quote Originally Posted by aLittleLessButter View Post
    I did dissect the 2nd one to turn it into a learning experience and if you wish I can post them here
    details on the malfunction and a seperate thread with a graphic warning might be best, but im am interested
    Last edited by OhhWatALoser; 01-04-2016 at 05:19 PM.

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    Re: Breeding Bee combos?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    details on the malfunction and a seperate thread with a graphic warning might be best, but im am interested
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ARNING-GRAPHIC!

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    Re: Breeding Bee combos?

    Thought this was an interesting write up http://www.herpnation.com/2016/01/20...-super-spider/

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    Re: Breeding Bee combos?

    Quote Originally Posted by aLittleLessButter View Post
    Thought this was an interesting write up http://www.herpnation.com/2016/01/20...-super-spider/
    Literally was just going to post that on my Bee breeding thread with almost the same caption. How are your eggs doing? When are they due to hatch again?

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