Super Cinny Problems

[Lizardlicks]

Question: do the occurrences of the the problems common in super cinnys (duck bill, kinking) stay at the same rate when you have other morphs mixed in? For example: would a super pewter (super cinny/super pastel) have the same likelihood to kink as a snake that is super cinny only?

[zachbinger]

Yes they do

[Lizardlicks]

Thanks, I wasn't sure if there was any sort "diluting"effect.

[aLittleLessButter]

The issues are associated with the gene so anywhere the gene is present there will be the chance of those issues regardless of any other genes that are also present

[Jons2012pied]

I saw three perfect super cinnys yesterday at repticon. I talk to the breeder and he said he lowered the temps slightly and none of them showed signs of kinking or duck bills. Maybe it was a fluke or maybe he is on to something.

[Lizardlicks]

Maybe. I don't think I'm going to risk it unless I see other people proving the method out first though. Could be he just got lucky on that clutch.

[8_Ball]

My breeder never has kinking or undeveloped snakes with his black pastel x black pastel breeding because of his lines I guess. I have heard the Ian G lines from Outback Reptiles do not produce kinked animals. Duck bills are different but usually cause no harm to the snake.

[OhhWatALoser]

Putting together everyone's experiences I have talked to, I think genetics has more to do with how bad the kinks or duck billing is rather than incubation temps. Some people hatch out quite a bit of kinked animals, while others might only get one every 50th animal.

[Lizardlicks]

Yeah, I don't even particularly want just a super cinny. More interested in the other things cinnamon combos with, but I'd be concerned for a clutch that has a chance for one of them popping out if I was trying for a different snake in the process. So best advice then would be to check and double check the lines to know what the snakes are coming out of?