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    Head resting up viv wall normal? Picture



    She does this quite a lot either head up on her hide or up the wall ? Anybody's do this?

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    That's a cool looking setup! Did you build it? Just because I'm curious, what do you use to heat it? Also, what temperature do you keep her cage at and how do you measure/control it?
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    Re: Head resting up viv wall normal? Picture

    She's in a monkfield viv 36" long and just 12" height it's an ideal size. Wood and glass.
    Floor and roof is glass, although the heat mat on floor wasn't enough so took the glass out of lid/roof replaced with mesh and sat a heat lamp on top now.
    Pic below isn't mine but same vivarium.

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    Those look like a pretty cool design! I just went to their website. Can you actually get to the heat mat from inside the enclosure, or is it sandwiched underneath a piece of glass by sliding it in from the back?

    Also, you didn't mention anything about your temperatures. How did you decide that the heat mat on bottom wasn't enough? What temperature was it and how/where did you measure it?
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    Re: Head resting up viv wall normal? Picture

    There are two pieces of glass in the floor, slide heatmat between the two.
    I live in the uk and my house is around 68-72f and the heatmat did nothing to raise ambient temps in the viv. Although all the reptile shops say all they need is a heatmat any your good!
    Ive got digital thermometer monitoring ambients and temp gun to read surface temps

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    Re: Head resting up viv wall normal? Picture

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    There are two pieces of glass in the floor, slide heatmat between the two.
    Perfect!

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    I live in the uk and my house is around 68-72f and the heatmat did nothing to raise ambient temps in the viv. Although all the reptile shops say all they need is a heatmat any your good!
    Now we're on to something. Heat mats are not supposed to do anything to raise ambient temperatures! They are designed to only raise the temperature of whatever they are in contact with (in your case, the glass on the floor). This works well for ground dwelling snakes such as BPs. Like you've already done, heat lamps are a good solution to raise the ambient temperature. You need to make sure the glass surface isn't too hot for your snake though (which could very easily be the case).

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    Ive got digital thermometer monitoring ambients and temp gun to read surface temps
    Excellent! Use that temp gun to shoot the glass in a few places directly above where the heat mat is. What temperatures do you get there?
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    Re: Head resting up viv wall normal? Picture

    My snake does the same thing occasionally. He doesn't head his head up that far, but he rests it on his hides when he's out. I figured he wants to see, but I also looked for signs of a RI.

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    Re: Head resting up viv wall normal? Picture

    After adjusting the stat the temp gun reads the actual mat at 78f yet when in between the glass floor it gives a reading of 88f directly where snake lays in the viv, I guess the glass gets warmer!

    Im hoping she doesn't have an ri , she yawns quite a lot too but can't see or hear any other symptoms

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    Is it 88 on top of the substrate where the snake lays or directly on the glass above the mat (below the substrate) when it's in place?
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    Re: Head resting up viv wall normal? Picture

    Yeah 88 on the glass, as she always moves the substrate aside. Thinking of doing away with the mat anyway as with the mat and lamp the floor in the warm side is getting too hot, ambient ok but combination of the two is making the floor too hot really

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