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No eyes, one eye, and small eyes
I have a Candino male X Albino female clutch that just hatched and today when a few have come out of their eggs I saw their eyes, or lack of, in three so far.
Is this a genetic thing or a freak thing?
It is the female's first eggs, she laid 6. All 6 were good eggs, good veins when I candled them initially. I check up on them a time or two during incubation to make sure no eggs have gone bad about mid term and then about a week before they are due (to take the press and seal off the tub). 1 egg went bad and had a 3/4 developed snake, the other 5 eggs went full term and look great. The snakes look very healthy, right now they are absorbing their yolks and just hanging out. I will get a few pictures in the next couple days when they come out of their eggs but this strikes me as very odd.
I don't believe it is the incubator (Hot Box Incubator) as I have hatched out 8 other clutches and all were healthy and very fat. I keep the temperature at 90 degrees, and it stays there, I have a digital thermometer inside the incubator and the incubator itself runs on a VE-200 so I don't believe temperatures are an issue. Humidity is 100% or very close to it, the eggs are always very plump, I have never had any dimple on me, as a matter of fact, when I have cut eggs the albumin (hopefully I spelled that right) gushes out so much that we have to hold a towel up in the direction of the first puncture or it shoots out.
Please let me know what you think, I have no idea.
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I would call it a genetic issue, especially since the other clutches you've hatched out are fine. I wouldn't pair those two again, and sell the babies from that clutch as pet-quality not potential breeders.
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Re: No eyes, one eye, and small eyes
I think there IS a history of eye-related mutations in albinos. I know of two eyeless BP's associated (a lav albino and a het albino), and have heard of many more.
You might want to avoid repeating that pairing, but the good news is that they'll still be happy healthy functioning animals since they don't really NEED their eyes to be able to eat!
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Re: No eyes, one eye, and small eyes
I have bred Albino x Albino many times with no issues.
Small/no eyes can happen with any morph, not just with Albinos.
It is either just a fluke or something with incubation.
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I on the other hand would pair the two again next season AND pair the male with a different albino. You will be able to prove if it is genetic and who is the culprit then.
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Re: No eyes, one eye, and small eyes
Could you post pictures? Lol I'm curious to see what they look like
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Re: No eyes, one eye, and small eyes
I looked at them today and so far 1 is still in the egg, it looks like only one of them has no deformities... the rest all have where the lower jaw doesn't extend out to end of their upper jaw.
This is horrible...
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I would avoid pairing those two snakes again, if it is genetic, chances are they have some negative recessive traits that unluckily paired up and caused it. I've seen it with other morphs, snakes produce completely normal babies, but pair the wrong two up and disaster.
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I too would have to say its a genetic thing. I would have to say it might be something genetic that both the mom and dad have, I just wouldn't par those two anymore
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Re: No eyes, one eye, and small eyes
Originally Posted by MikeM75
I looked at them today and so far 1 is still in the egg, it looks like only one of them has no deformities... the rest all have where the lower jaw doesn't extend out to end of their upper jaw.
This is horrible...
So sorry :/
If it's any consolation they should still thrive.
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