Meese colors

[Mr Oni]

I stink at mice genetics....don't know how but i started with two colors and ended up with more.

These are some neat guys that have came out....i like the oranges.

Little Sherbert


Older sherberts


Black eyed champagne???
I love this dude. I always get a bunch of champagnes but he has been the only one with black eyes.


Brown!!!
This guy is also a first for me....never made a color like this



Pig pile


I dont have a real camera.
I hope these are good enough for the eyes.
Mice dont sit still for me.
Thanks for looking at my piggies.

[Philip451]

Oh boy.... You'd get along famously with my fiancee.
She loves the snakes and all, but, she really loves the rat colony lol. She breeds all the colors, and hairstyle types. Every other week shes showing me some impossibly cute baby rat trying to tell me about the genetics of it.

[Rhasputin]

It looks like agouti (A/a) or (A/A), black (a/a), and recessive yellow (e/e) to me.

The agouti might be clocolate, it depends on if they're ticked or self.
The little brown one? Uhmmm, it might just be a weird photo, and it's just a really ugly recessive yellow, lol. Or there might be a c-dilute involved, but I would think that if it was a c-dilute then another mouse would be effected.

[Mr Oni]

It looks like agouti (A/a) or (A/A), black (a/a), and recessive yellow (e/e) to me.

The agouti might be clocolate, it depends on if they're ticked or self.
The little brown one? Uhmmm, it might just be a weird photo, and it's just a really ugly recessive yellow, lol. Or there might be a c-dilute involved, but I would think that if it was a c-dilute then another mouse would be effected.

The brown pig is brown like a hersey bar, i'll get a better pig pile for comparison.

I think im gonna put some effort in figuring out what your saying :o

[AlexisFitzy]

Sqeeeee these little piggies are too cute!!


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[Rhasputin]

If the brown ones are one solid colour, with no speckling at all, then they are chocolate.

So if that's true then here are the genotypes of your mice (also assuming that the 'light brown one' is actually a really ugly recessive yellow)

Blac (a/a)
Chocolate (a/a b/b)
Recessive yellow (a/a e/e)

There's a possibility that the light brown one is chocolate + recessive yellow, and maybe that's why it's so muddy looking. That would be (a/a b/b e/e) 3 recessive genes. That might make sense, lol.


Also, they are all (s/s) which is piebald.

[Rhasputin]

Okay hold on.... do some of these have pink eyes? lol.
It looks like they all have black eyes on my screen, but if there's red eyes in there, then my list of genes is all messed up. XD

What I really need to know, is which mice are the parents?

[owl307]

the recessive yellow like ones with pink eyes wouldnt be recessive yellow. they would be considered argente or fawn

[Rhasputin]

Not necessarily, because there does not seem to be any agouti here, so if those guys are pink eyed, they would not be argente, because argente is pink eyed agouti.

But they are also not pink eyed black, because that is champagne (or called lilac in the UK a/a p/p). What they most likely are, is pink eyed recessive yellow. Which is (a/a e/e p/p).

The 'black eyed champagne is probably (a/a b/b e/e) or chocolate + recessive yellow. It would be champagne if it were (a/a b/b p/p) pink eye is what makes it a champagne.

The browns are chocolate (a/a b/b)

The blacks are ... black (a/a)

And the yellows are either: Recessive yellow (a/a e/e) or Pink eyed recessive yellow (a/a e/e p/p)


AND THAT'S MY FINAL ANSWER. lol

Oh yeah and they're all (s/s) recessive piebald

a = black
A = agouti

b = chocolate
B = no chocolate

e = recessive yellow
E = no recessive yellow

p = pink eye (not albino, which is c/c)
P = no pink eye dilution

s = piebald
S = not piebald

[Rhasputin]

You're not wrong about calling it fawn though, necessarily. Fawn typically refers to (Ay/ay p/p) animals. Ay is dominant red, and is basically un-available in the US to most breeders. e/e (recessive yellow, also called recessive red) is sometimes refered to as a 'red' gene, even though it's on a different locus. So a pink eyed recessive yellow mouse can sometimes be called a fawn ... but it's a slight misnomer.

Argente only refers to a pink eyed agouti mouse. Which has ticking, and is not a solid, self color.