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    New Snake Not happy :( need advice

    So i purchased this lesser and received her today. Open the box to notice her bubbling at the mouth. I didn't panic figured it was just from shipping and it would go away in a couple days... So I gave her a couple hours in her setup because im sure she was stressed and i just took her out to check her out a little more and discovered this...

    she was also listed at 1700g and when i weighed her she was 1200 maybe she was that weight at some point because she seems pretty thin to me..

    I don't know how to approach the situation and was wondering if you guys could help me... I contacted a vet and there willing to check her out... It almost looks like one of her hemipenes is inverted IDK what does it look like to you... Im going to give it the weekend before i contact the seller i just sent him a couple txts about the issue and going to give him a call on monday.. Im not going to point any fingers or list any names because im not like that..
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    I'm not sure what is up in those pictures, but bubbling at the mouth almost always means RI. That snake need a vet ASAP
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    Agree.. I really hope hes understanding man this is frustrating
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    Re: New Snake Not happy :( need advice

    She kinda has that "I just laid eggs" look.

    I'd definitely contact the seller and express all of your concerns. I'd go ahead and schedule a vet visit too, if nothing else just to ease your mind.

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    Re: New Snake Not happy :( need advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadera View Post
    She kinda has that "I just laid eggs" look.

    I'd definitely contact the seller and express all of your concerns. I'd go ahead and schedule a vet visit too, if nothing else just to ease your mind.
    I was thinking the same thing. Could also explain the weight difference ( prelay/postlay weights ).

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    Re: New Snake Not happy :( need advice

    Quote Originally Posted by oskyle1567 View Post
    Im not going to point any fingers or list any names because im not like that..
    I don't see how anyone could make mistakes like that. You can tell it is VERY skinny, probable URI, cloacal injury and the weight isn't anywhere near what the seller claimed it to be. I'd understand if it was 1,600g, that is fair enough, but there is a 500g discrepancy here. That is almost 1/3 of its weight missing! That is a MAJOR difference! I'd love to hear the sellers side of this story.

    I'm a nice guy too, but I would throw a fit! I would never conduct such shady business. It sounds to me like this seller is playing you for a fool.

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    From what hes told me shes a virgin... but i agree she looks like she just dropped eggs...
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    Really hope i didnt get scammed... No honest seller would ship a snake in this condition i hope i can get in contact with him..
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    Re: New Snake Not happy :( need advice

    I second the comments that she looks like she dropped eggs recently (mine lose ~25% of their prelay weights). The bubbling indicates a fairly advanced RI (would not have happened that quickly just during overnight shipping). Also, she wouldn't have hemipenes, only males do.

    Normally I advocate working through it with the seller, but in this situation, I would insist that he send a prepaid return shipping label and give either a full refund or a partial one and ship her back once she is healthy, IF you are set on having her. Do not spend your personal money on vet visits, since it does not appear that the seller has earned the benefit of the doubt in reimbursing your expenses.
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    While I agree that the animal needs to see a Vet, the down side is that once you take her to the Vet, it kind of becomes your problem. I have a hard time believing any seller that would ship a snake in that condition will be quick to help with the Vet bills.

    Of course, the circumstances around this whole snake seem a little sketchy, so this may be your problem already. Fingers crossed that the seller will let you ship the snake back.
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