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View Poll Results: Who's Making Money Breeding?

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  • I'm making $ and breeding is my sole source of income

    6 4.23%
  • I'm making $ and breeding supplements my income

    27 19.01%
  • I make $ and put it all back into the hobby

    20 14.08%
  • I'm breaking even across the board

    12 8.45%
  • I'm losing $ and wish I were making a profit

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  • I'm losing $ and I don't care...it's my hobby

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    Who's Making Money Breeding Ball Pythons?

    This poll was suggested during discussion in another thread. So, who out there is making money, losing money, or breaking even?
    Thomas "Slim" Whitman
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    Re: Who's Making Money Breeding Ball Pythons?

    Hmmm...good question....
    Last year I kept track of every dime for the year....Rats and Mice, supplies, show fees and expenses, racks, ads, you name it I logged it. Every snake I bought and sold and produced...
    I hatched out 70 Ball Pythons and 29 Red Tails...kept 14 babies out of what I produced...higher end stuff...2.4 Dbl het Albino/Pieds 2.2 Dbl het Axa/Pieds, Spider Het Pied, Pastave female, Het Albino female and a Lemon Blast male.
    Spent $17,150.00 buying snakes and had $5,400.00 of babies from 2011 that I sold in 2012 and by the time I closed the books for 2011 I had lost $11,254.00. Now if I would have sold what I kept I would have came out ahead but what fun is that.
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    Colin Weaver wrote an interesting artical on the subject of trying to turn a profit BP breeding

    http://ballpythonbreeder.com/2011/03...on-investment/
    "We are artists using locus and alleles as our paint; the ball python as our canvas" - Colin Weaver


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    Re: Who's Making Money Breeding Ball Pythons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lair of Dragons View Post
    Now if I would have sold what I kept I would have came out ahead but what fun is that.
    Travis, yours is an excellent example of a net loss that I would consider a sum total gain!
    Thomas "Slim" Whitman
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    Mike Wilbanks had a video on the "ball python game" pretty recently. The gist of it was basically you cant go wrong investing in balls lol! I havent bred yet, plan to this fall though. I dont ever see myself breeding for profit really. My ultimate goal is just to profuce high quality animals that i love and that hopefully customers love too. I'll probably hold back as many as i can my 1st few years anyways. Most holdbacks will be the best snakes i produce. So ya, eventually if i can make a little extra cash doing it then ya thatd be awesome. Even if i can make enough just to cover food/bedding/other costs id be happy
    I'll see if i can get a link to mikes video, hang tight everbody...

    EDIT: heres where i saw the video from:
    http://thereptilereport.com/mike-wil...the-ball-game/
    Last edited by JLC; 05-02-2012 at 10:34 PM. Reason: fixed link
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    This my first year breeding. Whether I break even or get a profit will depend on the odds of what hatches. We'll just have to wait and see.
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    I don't care if I never make a dime of profit from my snakes. Sure...it'd be nice if my hobby paid for itself, but it's just that: a hobby. People have all sorts of hobbies...for my dad it was his Corvette...and I promise you that never MADE him any money. This is my hobby.
    ~Kat



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    We just started so we aren't expecting to come out ahead for at least another year or two. We'll be lucky/happy if our handful of clutches can pay for this year's expenses.
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    Re: Who's Making Money Breeding Ball Pythons?

    Quote Originally Posted by spitzu View Post
    We just started so we aren't expecting to come out ahead for at least another year or two. We'll be lucky/happy if our handful of clutches can pay for this year's expenses.
    I found that very hard to do....I keep buying BP's and started out with spending no more than $400.00 for a snake the first year...then the next year it went up to $700.00 and this year I have bought some to where its up to $2000.00. Only been back in BPs for three breeding seasons. Collection went from 5 first year and 1 clutch...second year had 30 something BPs and 15 clutches and the count now is 67 in year three years and if I hit 100% female production it would be 28 clutches. I am averaging spending about $1500.00 a month adding more morphs this year so far and I dont have a single egg out yet...got to love it and my wife understands the addiction....thank God.
    Travis
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    I can't answer yet as I just started breeding. I plan to start tracking expense, but I know that so far I am way behind. I haven't made a single penny yet, but hope to change that soon. I finally have eggs, 2 from one of my cresties and some one the way from my ball pythons. With any luck in a few years, my hobby will at least pay for itself.
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