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    Id like to think i know somthing about genetics... BUUUTTT....

    Ok, so id like to think i know quite a bit about genetics...
    BUT i have a question, and its probably a simple/dumb one haha


    so for example

    Black Pastel X Black Pastel = 25% norm, 50% Black Pastels, and 25% Supers..
    (in theory)
    then super x normal = 100% Black Pastels..
    BUT!

    what about those compatible morph supers? such as : lesser x mojo, mojo x butter, black pastel x cinny.... etc etc etc.


    So say i get a Bel, which was made with a Mojo and Lesser...
    and i bred the Bel to a Normal...

    would i get both mojos and lessers? or... all one and none of the other?

    Ive never came across this case... and i just thought about it...

    Thanks guys.

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    Re: Id like to think i know somthing about genetics... BUUUTTT....

    Yes, you would get mojos and lessers.
    Eddie Strong, Jr.

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    Re: Id like to think i know somthing about genetics... BUUUTTT....

    This is a great question. Same goes for a Lesser x Butter Leucy. If the Leucy is bred, how do you go about telling which are Lessers and which are Butters? You'd need to know to sell them...

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    Re: Id like to think i know somthing about genetics... BUUUTTT....

    Quote Originally Posted by Vibrant Balls View Post
    This is a great question. Same goes for a Lesser x Butter Leucy. If the Leucy is bred, how do you go about telling which are Lessers and which are Butters? You'd need to know to sell them...
    If you can't distinguish the two and the genetics behave the same...then what is the difference?


    To the OP:

    Have you ever studied Punnett squares? If you have a basic understanding of how they work and the genetics you're dealing with (whether it's simple recessive, codom, etc), there are some good sites online that will calculate them out for you. Here's one I use sometimes (it allows you to name genes and add multiple alleles, which is nice)

    http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/...Calculator.asp
    Last edited by unspecified42; 02-02-2010 at 09:48 AM.

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    Re: Id like to think i know somthing about genetics... BUUUTTT....

    I use this one frequently

    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/
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    Re: Id like to think i know somthing about genetics... BUUUTTT....

    i have studied them, but its always something i second guessed.
    Thanks guys.

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    Re: Id like to think i know somthing about genetics... BUUUTTT....

    Quote Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    Well hell. That's a lot easier!

    aaaaaaaannnnd *bookmark*

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    Re: Id like to think i know somthing about genetics... BUUUTTT....

    Quote Originally Posted by Vibrant Balls View Post
    This is a great question. Same goes for a Lesser x Butter Leucy. If the Leucy is bred, how do you go about telling which are Lessers and which are Butters? You'd need to know to sell them...

    Which is why you'd be daft to do this pairing.

    Most breeders I know stick to one or the other in their collection.

    Butter and lesser are effectively the same gene, they came about from two different originating snakes and so came to be named differently. All combos and the super behave and look exactly the same and anyone who tells you they can pick a lesser from a butter is fibbing

    Both genes are very variable, our lesser male was more 'yellow' as a hatchling than a lot of butters i've seen and equally there are some 09cb butters for sale that are as dark as the darkest lesser.


    I've seen adult example of some of the 'het BEL' snakes (butter, lesser and mojave) that you could have swapped them about and you wouldn't have known which was which other than by the labels on the tubs.

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